Does John Get Arthur’s Trinkets in Red Dead Redemption 2?
The burning question for many Red Dead Redemption 2 players transitioning from Arthur Morgan to John Marston in the epilogue is: what carries over, and what’s lost? Among the many valuable items players acquire throughout their journey, trinkets and talismans hold a special significance, providing unique buffs and advantages. So, does John inherit these coveted possessions after Arthur’s tragic end? The answer is a resounding yes. John Marston will indeed receive all of Arthur Morgan’s trinkets and talismans upon the start of the epilogue. You do not lose them when transitioning from Arthur to John.
The Fate of Arthur’s Belongings
When the narrative shifts from Arthur to John, players often worry about losing their hard-earned progress and collection of items. Fortunately, the developers at Rockstar Games implemented a system that ensures a seamless transition in most aspects. Beyond trinkets and talismans, John also inherits Arthur’s:
- Outfits and Clothing: You’ll get access to all of Arthur’s purchased and unlocked clothing items, allowing you to continue your style journey.
- Weapons: All of Arthur’s firearms and melee weapons transfer over, providing a familiar arsenal for your post-game escapades.
- Character Progress: This includes acquired recipes, completed challenges, and overall unlockable perks. Note that while overall progress carries over, core stats such as health and stamina are reduced back to 6/8 bars.
- Trapper Clothing and Saddles: The unique items you crafted or purchased from the trapper will also be available for John.
- Valuables and Documents: All collected valuables and important documents will also be accessible as John.
What Doesn’t Transfer
While a lot of crucial items transfer over, some things are lost when switching to John:
- Horses: Unfortunately, all of Arthur’s horses are gone. This includes any special horses like Buell.
- Consumables: All of your stored food, tonics, and other consumables will be reset.
- Most of Arthur’s Cash: While you will get an initial sum of money when you transition to John, Arthur’s total savings are not carried over. However, John can later recover a substantial sum at the end of the epilogue.
Why Keeping Trinkets and Talismans is Important
Trinkets and talismans offer invaluable permanent stat boosts and advantages throughout the game. Losing them would significantly hamper your gameplay experience in the epilogue. These items can increase dead eye duration, boost health regeneration, improve weapon durability, and more. Having them carry over to John allows players to maintain the advantages they worked to achieve and ensures a more consistent and enjoyable post-game experience.
Transitioning Seamlessly
The fact that trinkets transfer shows that the developers wanted players to be able to seamlessly transition into playing as John and pick up from where they left off. The core player experience was not intended to be lost.
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
Here are some frequently asked questions regarding items that transfer and don’t transfer to John Marston in the Red Dead Redemption 2 epilogue:
1. What exactly are trinkets and talismans?
Trinkets and talismans in Red Dead Redemption 2 are unique items that grant permanent passive buffs or abilities to your character. Trinkets are typically crafted from items found by looting animals. Talismans are often crafted with items obtained from Legendary animals or are given to you for completing certain missions.
2. Does John get all of Arthur’s unlocked recipes?
Yes, John inherits all of Arthur’s known recipes, allowing him to craft items such as tonics, ammunition, and hunting supplies. These recipes can be found in the pause menu under “Crafting”.
3. Do all of Arthur’s completed challenges transfer to John?
Yes, any challenges that you completed as Arthur will remain completed when you play as John. This includes Bandit challenges, Gambler challenges, Herbalist challenges, etc.
4. What happens to Arthur’s cash?
Upon the transition to John, most of Arthur’s cash is not transferred. However, John will receive an initial sum of money at the start of the epilogue, and is later able to recover a significant amount of money at the end of the epilogue.
5. Can John get Arthur’s horses back?
Unfortunately, no. All of Arthur’s horses, including any named or special horses like Buell, are permanently lost during the transition to John in the epilogue. This adds to the sense of loss and finality in Arthur’s passing.
6. Does John keep Arthur’s honor level?
While your general progress carries over, your core stats, including honor, are reset to a neutral level. Your previous choices will influence the dialogue in the epilogue, but you must begin building honor from scratch.
7. Are there any unique items only Arthur can obtain?
Yes, there are some items that are specific to Arthur’s part of the story, such as his journal and some unique weapons found during story missions. While John may obtain other versions, Arthur’s version is unique and can’t be acquired by John.
8. What about Arthur’s satchel upgrades?
Arthur’s satchel upgrades do carry over, meaning that John will have the same increased capacity as Arthur when the epilogue begins.
9. Does John get the gold bars that Arthur may have collected?
While John doesn’t inherit Arthur’s gold bars directly, he can obtain new gold bars through other means in the epilogue. Also, John can recover the gold bars from Micah and Dutch at the end of the epilogue.
10. Will John be able to use the same weapon customizations as Arthur?
Yes, John will have access to any weapon customizations that Arthur applied. This includes engravings, metals, and wraps. However, some weapons are unique to Arthur and cannot be further customized by John.
11. Can John access Arthur’s old camps in the world?
Yes, John can travel to any of the camps where Arthur and the gang stayed. While they’re no longer populated by gang members, they provide a nostalgic trip through the game.
12. Does John get Arthur’s masks?
Yes, John will retain access to any masks that Arthur had purchased or obtained. This allows John to use them during robberies or other activities that require disguises.
13. Are there any special outfits that transfer that are particularly worth keeping?
All outfits are worth keeping, depending on what you find visually appealing. But there are some very well made and iconic outfits that many will want to keep. These include any outfits unlocked through trapper crafting, the legendary bounty hunter outfits, and the outfit gained from completing the legendary animals.
14. Is it possible to “transfer” horses between saves, from one character to another?
No, it’s not possible to transfer horses between saves or characters. Once Arthur’s horses are gone, they’re gone. Similarly, if you use a different horse in the epilogue for John, you won’t be able to transfer that horse to Arthur if you were to revert back to a previous save.
15. If I missed out on obtaining certain trinkets or talismans as Arthur, can I get them as John?
While some trinkets and talismans are only available through Arthur’s story missions, many others are obtainable as John. This includes those crafted from animals and those obtainable through other means such as side quests.