Unlocking the Horrors: How Many Times Can You REALLY Fight Omega Flowey in Undertale?
The grotesque, screen-shattering form of Omega Flowey is one of the most memorable boss encounters in Undertale. This monstrous amalgamation of determination and stolen human souls is a true test of skill, and the desire to face him again often grips players. But how many times can you actually fight this floral nightmare?
The direct answer is: You can fight Omega Flowey once per save file until you complete a Pacifist or Genocide route. After completing one of those runs, you can fight him again because these clears allow you to reset the game in such a way that he regains his memory loss. A standard “reset” after a Neutral ending won’t allow a rematch because Flowey remembers your previous encounter and the souls rebelling against him. Think of it as him being too smart to fall for the same trick twice.
Delving Deeper: Understanding Flowey’s Rematch Conditions
The key to understanding Omega Flowey’s availability lies in Flowey’s memory. He remembers what happens within a save file.
- First Encounter: On your initial Neutral run, Omega Flowey will always appear as the final boss. This is his default state before he learns about your actions.
- Post-Neutral Run (Without True Reset): If you achieve a Neutral ending and simply reset, Flowey won’t fight you again. He knows the human souls will turn against him, making the battle pointless from his perspective. He will mock you and go straight to his ending.
- Post-True Pacifist Run: A True Pacifist ending unlocks a True Reset. This essentially wipes Flowey’s memory. In this case, he will have to fight you again.
- Post-Genocide Run: Completing a Genocide route also allows for a reset and a rematch against Omega Flowey. Even after the horrors of a Genocide Route, Flowey’s memory can be wiped allowing a fresh battle.
- Manual Save Deletion: Manually deleting your save data outside of the game forces a complete reset. If Flowey has no data from your past, he will fight you as the Omega boss, and if you defeat him in a neutral run, you can achieve the Pacifist run.
FAQs: Unraveling the Mysteries of Omega Flowey
Here are some frequently asked questions to further clarify the nuances of battling Omega Flowey:
1. Can you fight Omega Flowey twice in the same save file?
No. Once he skips the fight in a neutral run, you cannot battle him again without performing a True Reset (after a Pacifist ending), completing a Genocide run, or deleting your save data.
2. What happens if you beat a True Pacifist route?
Beating a True Pacifist route grants you the ability to perform a True Reset. This wipes the slate clean, including Flowey’s memory, allowing you to fight Omega Flowey again on your next Neutral run.
3. Does killing Flowey ruin a Pacifist run?
No, killing Flowey at the end of a Neutral route doesn’t automatically disqualify you from achieving a Pacifist ending on your next run. However, Flowey won’t provide hints on how to achieve it. As long as you haven’t killed any other monsters (besides Asgore) and fulfilled the necessary friendship requirements (Undyne’s water, Papyrus’s date, etc.) you’re still eligible.
4. Is Omega Flowey stronger than Sans?
This is a debated topic, but the consensus leans towards Sans being more dangerous in a direct fight, but Omega Flowey has the ultimate advantage: The ability to reset and learn from his mistakes.
5. What happens if you spare Flowey after Omega Flowey?
If you spare Flowey after defeating Omega Flowey, he will usually give you hints on how to achieve the True Pacifist ending. You’ll only be locked out of True Pacifist for your run if you’ve killed anyone (Not including Asgore or Flowey) and didn’t give Undyne the water in Hotland.
6. Does Omega Flowey delete your save file?
No, Omega Flowey does not delete your save file. He will trap you in an inescapable fight and reset your progress, but your save file will remain intact. You will be forced to fight him every time until you win.
7. Is Asriel stronger than Omega Flowey?
Yes, Asriel Dreemurr is considerably stronger than Omega Flowey. Asriel possesses the power of seven human souls, enabling him to destroy timelines, whereas Flowey only has access to six.
8. What if you dodge Flowey’s bullets at the beginning of the game?
If you dodge Flowey’s “friendliness pellets” multiple times, he’ll become angry and drop his friendly facade, revealing his true, malicious nature.
9. How do you trigger Omega Flowey?
Omega Flowey will appear as the final boss on any Neutral route until you’ve defeated him once (or completed Pacifist or Genocide, allowing him to remember the result of your actions and decide not to battle again).
10. What happens if you kill all monsters except Flowey?
If you kill all monsters, you can proceed to face Sans in the Judgement Hall for a Genocide run. Flowey is not a part of the encounter and cannot be killed by any means in this hall. The game will continue as normal.
11. Does Flowey remember the Genocide run?
Yes, Flowey remembers the Genocide run. This is reflected in his dialogue during subsequent playthroughs.
12. How many endings are in Undertale?
Undertale has three main endings: Neutral, True Pacifist, and Genocide. There’s also a Hard Mode, which is a slightly modified version of the early game.
13. Can you beat Omega Flowey without the souls?
No, you cannot beat Omega Flowey without the souls. His defense is too high to do any kind of damage. The souls are an integral part of the battle.
14. Do you have to fight Omega Flowey after a True Reset?
Yes, you have to fight Omega Flowey again after a True Reset, as his memory is wiped, and he sees you as a blank slate.
15. How do I get a pacifist run?
To get a Pacifist run, you need to do the following:
- Never kill any monster. Always choose the “Spare” option or use non-lethal methods to end encounters.
- Complete a Neutral run first.
- After completing the Neutral run, go back to the MTT resort. Undyne will call you in and have you deliver a letter to Alphys.
- Complete the events at Alphys’ True Lab.
- You can now fight Asriel Dreemurr.
Undertale’s intricate mechanics and storytelling continue to fascinate players. Understanding the conditions for battling Omega Flowey is crucial for experiencing all the game has to offer. The game is all about learning and is a great way to teach new players. Visit the Games Learning Society to learn more about game and educational information.