Omega Flowey vs. Asriel Dreemurr: Who Holds the Ultimate Power in Undertale?

The age-old question plaguing Undertale fans: Is Omega Flowey more powerful than Asriel Dreemurr? The short answer is no, Asriel Dreemurr in his God of Hyperdeath form is definitively more powerful than Omega Flowey. While Omega Flowey possesses immense power derived from six human souls, Asriel boasts the equivalent of seven human souls, granting him abilities far exceeding those of his soulless counterpart.

Dissecting Omega Flowey’s Power

Omega Flowey, the monstrous transformation of Flowey after absorbing six human souls, is undoubtedly a formidable foe. He embodies chaotic power and god-like control over the game’s very interface. Here’s a breakdown of his capabilities:

• Soul Absorption: The core of his strength lies in the captured human souls, granting him immense magical power.
• Reality Warping: Omega Flowey can manipulate the game environment, creating illusions, firing seemingly endless barrages of projectiles, and even controlling the SAVE file.
• Immortality (Sort Of): While not truly immortal, Omega Flowey can reset the timeline, undoing any damage dealt to him.
• Offensive Firepower: His attacks are devastating, ranging from bullet hell sequences to gigantic lasers.

Despite all this, Omega Flowey’s power has limitations. His control over the souls is imperfect, and ultimately, Frisk, with the aid of the souls, can resist and overpower him. This suggests that his power, while vast, is still constrained by the wills of those he controls.

Asriel’s Godlike Ascendancy

Asriel Dreemurr, after absorbing the seven human souls (including Frisk’s determination) transcends Omega Flowey in almost every conceivable aspect of power. He achieves a state of God of Hyperdeath, making him virtually unstoppable. Here’s what makes him stronger:

• Seven Souls: The equivalent of seven human souls gives Asriel a power boost far exceeding that of six. This allows him to warp reality on a much grander scale.
• Timeline Manipulation: Unlike Omega Flowey’s localized resets, Asriel can threaten the entire timeline. He can also undo all that he has done, implying he can do just about anything.
• Infinite Attack and Defense: In the game, Asriel’s stats are listed as infinite. Even if this is more symbolic than literal, it clearly places him above Omega Flowey’s capabilities.
• Emotional Depth: Asriel’s power isn’t just brute force. It is fueled by his emotions, which makes his attacks even more impactful. It also makes him vulnerable, however.

Asriel’s power extends beyond mere destruction; he can manipulate memories, alter the flow of time, and even break the barrier separating monsters from humans. His power is truly godlike, placing him leagues above Omega Flowey.

The Key Difference: Control and Intent

While both characters wield incredible power, the crucial distinction lies in control and intent. Omega Flowey’s power is driven by a desperate desire to feel something, anything. He lacks genuine compassion or empathy, making his use of power chaotic and ultimately self-destructive. Asriel, on the other hand, experiences a surge of emotions upon regaining his true form, including love, grief, and remorse. These emotions, while initially overwhelming, ultimately lead him to relinquish the souls, recognizing the harm he is causing.

The fact that Frisk can reason with Asriel, appealing to his lost humanity, demonstrates a vulnerability that Omega Flowey lacks. This vulnerability, paradoxically, makes Asriel more powerful. He’s not just a force of destruction, but a being capable of understanding and change.

Understanding the Power Dynamic

The power dynamic between Omega Flowey and Asriel is not merely about raw strength; it’s about the source and application of that strength. Omega Flowey uses power as a tool for control and dominance, while Asriel, despite his initial destructive urges, ultimately uses his power to heal and forgive.

This thematic difference is essential to Undertale’s message about the power of compassion and the importance of choices. While Omega Flowey represents the destructive potential of unchecked power, Asriel embodies the transformative potential of empathy and understanding.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

Here are some frequently asked questions concerning Undertale power scaling:

1. Is Omega Flowey stronger than Sans?

Omega Flowey stomps Sans. He’s literally everything Genocide Frisk is but with heavier firepower and nastier looks. Omega Flowey has 9950 HP compared to Sans’ 1 HP.

2. Is Asriel Dreemurr the most powerful character?

Asriel in his God of Hyperdeath form is, without a doubt, the strongest character because he has the equivalent of 7 souls and is basically a god. Having the 7 souls he can also destroy the world AND destroy the barrier, he can also manipulate reality and change his form at his will.

3. Is Omega Flowey possible to beat?

Once all six souls have been dealt with Flowey’s DEF will drop to zero and your HP will be fully restored. He’ll fall back on his all-out attacks but the souls will continue to throw out healing items, so providing you hit the Fight button every time it appears the fight should be over fairly quickly from here.

4. Who is more powerful Sans or Asriel?

Sans is a hard boss but nowhere the most powerful. Asriel is much, MUCH, more powerful than our beloved skeleton because he was literally threatening to purge an entire fricking timeline. This is magnitudes above anything Sans has ever done.

5. Can Gaster beat Asriel?

Technically, in terms of stats, W.D Gaster is stronger than God Asriel. In the game files, Gaster’s ATK and DEF are both 666666. Which is more than Asriel (God) stats at 9999 each.

6. Who is the strongest version of Gaster?

W.D. Gaster during the war, with Gerson, was a strategic advisor to Asgore. After the humans sealed the monsters underground Gaster become a royal scientist and created the CORE and echo flowers. Gaster is the strongest person in Undercore and the strongest version of Gaster that ever existed.

7. What happens if you dodge Flowey’s bullets?

All that happens is you get a sweet little easter egg from Flowey when you dodge the bullets (he recognizes you know about the friendliness pellets). That’s all, just some additional dialogue when you dodge the bullets. It doesn’t affect the overall game in any way.

8. Does killing Flowey ruin a pacifist run?

Killing Flowey at the end does not count against your Pacifist playthrough.

9. Is Omega Flowey the hardest boss in Undertale?

If you want the most challenging final boss of them all, play on the neutral route. After beating Asgore, Flowey will appear and finish Asgore before using all 6 souls to transform into this abomination. Omega Flowey is the longest fight of the game and it is so hard to survive the whole way through.

10. Can Goku beat Asriel?

Checking him reveals that his attack and defense stats are infinite and implies he is impossible to harm, instead forcing Frisk to hold out against him. Needless to say, Goku had no way around Asriel’s infinite defense.

11. Can Chara beat Asriel?

Asriel is far, far more powerful, at least in the form in which he fights you. From a lore perspective, he’s nearly omnipotent. Frisk/Chara cannot harm him in this form, as he has absorbed the equivalent of seven human souls.

12. Who wins Sans or Goku?

If we think on how both are in character, let’s first speak about their Strength, this is like comparing a character with 1 Attack VS Over NINE THOUSAND attack! Goku was far stronger that’s true! Hell, Goku’s Universal Busting feats alone are surrealistically stronger than Sans.

13. Can you beat Omega Flowey without the souls?

I just finished the fight, and there are no special endings for killing with no souls taken. From a dev standpoint, he has really low hp, but his defense is ridiculously high, just a minor fraction of damage gets through. I used cheats to lower him to a reachable hp then beat him.

14. Which Undertale ending is canon?

No matter what ending you get in Undertale, the Deltarune universe will be the same. All endings of Undertale are canon. And as others have said, Deltarune is set in an alternate universe. The same characters are there, but they’ve lived completely different lives.

15. Why is Flowey scared of Chara?

Flowey probably thought Chara would see him and be proud that he adopted Chara’s ideals. Flowey was scared, because he realized he wasn’t exempt from Chara’s genocide, he finally saw the terrible reality he was in, right in front of an genocidal mass murderer.

Concluding Thoughts

While Omega Flowey presents a significant challenge with his reality-bending powers and chaotic attacks, Asriel Dreemurr, in his God of Hyperdeath form, stands as the more powerful entity. Asriel’s command over seven human souls, his capacity for timeline manipulation, and his ultimately compassionate nature elevate him beyond the destructive, soulless ambition of Omega Flowey.

Understanding the power dynamics within Undertale requires more than just analyzing stats and abilities; it demands a deeper understanding of the game’s themes and the characters’ motivations.

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