{"id":120983,"date":"2025-04-12T02:24:26","date_gmt":"2025-04-12T02:24:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/?p=120983"},"modified":"2025-04-12T02:24:26","modified_gmt":"2025-04-12T02:24:26","slug":"what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/","title":{"rendered":"What happens if you don&#8217;t kill Ulysses?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_67_1 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-grey ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<div class=\"ez-toc-title-container\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title \" >Table of Contents<\/p>\n<span class=\"ez-toc-title-toggle\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"ez-toc-pull-right ez-toc-btn ez-toc-btn-xs ez-toc-btn-default ez-toc-toggle\" aria-label=\"Toggle Table of Content\"><span class=\"ez-toc-js-icon-con\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-1'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#What_happens_if_you_dont_kill_Ulysses\" title=\"What happens if you don&#8217;t kill Ulysses?\">What happens if you don&#8217;t kill Ulysses?<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-2' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#Understanding_Ulysses_Character\" title=\"Understanding Ulysses&#8217; Character\">Understanding Ulysses&#8217; Character<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#FAQs\" title=\"FAQs\">FAQs<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-3' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#1_What_happens_if_you_let_Ulysses_live\" title=\"1. What happens if you let Ulysses live?\">1. What happens if you let Ulysses live?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#2_What_happens_to_Ulysses_after_Lonesome_Road\" title=\"2. What happens to Ulysses after Lonesome Road?\">2. What happens to Ulysses after Lonesome Road?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-6\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#3_Why_does_Ulysses_want_to_kill_the_Courier\" title=\"3. Why does Ulysses want to kill the Courier?\">3. Why does Ulysses want to kill the Courier?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-7\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#4_What_does_Ulysses_want_in_Fallout\" title=\"4. What does Ulysses want in Fallout?\">4. What does Ulysses want in Fallout?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-8\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#5_Can_you_let_Ulysses_live\" title=\"5. Can you let Ulysses live?\">5. Can you let Ulysses live?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-9\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#6_Why_does_Ulysses_want_to_go_on_adventures_again\" title=\"6. Why does Ulysses want to go on adventures again?\">6. Why does Ulysses want to go on adventures again?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-10\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#7_Should_you_kill_Ulysses_in_Fallout_New_Vegas\" title=\"7. Should you kill Ulysses in Fallout New Vegas?\">7. Should you kill Ulysses in Fallout New Vegas?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-11\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#8_Does_the_Courier_get_lobotomized\" title=\"8. Does the Courier get lobotomized?\">8. Does the Courier get lobotomized?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-12\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#9_Can_I_spare_Ulysses\" title=\"9. Can I spare Ulysses?\">9. Can I spare Ulysses?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-13\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#10_Does_Ulysses_like_the_Legion\" title=\"10. Does Ulysses like the Legion?\">10. Does Ulysses like the Legion?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-14\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#11_What_did_Courier_6_do_to_Ulysses\" title=\"11. What did Courier 6 do to Ulysses?\">11. What did Courier 6 do to Ulysses?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-15\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#12_What_happens_if_you_nuke_the_Legion\" title=\"12. What happens if you nuke the Legion?\">12. What happens if you nuke the Legion?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-16\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#13_Can_you_go_back_to_the_Divide_after_you_finish_Lonesome_Road\" title=\"13. Can you go back to the Divide after you finish Lonesome Road?\">13. Can you go back to the Divide after you finish Lonesome Road?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-17\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#14_Can_you_avoid_fighting_Ulysses\" title=\"14. Can you avoid fighting Ulysses?\">14. Can you avoid fighting Ulysses?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-18\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gameslearningsociety.org\/wiki\/what-happens-if-you-dont-kill-ulysses\/#15_What_is_the_main_point_of_Ulysses\" title=\"15. What is the main point of Ulysses?\">15. What is the main point of Ulysses?<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h1><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"What_happens_if_you_dont_kill_Ulysses\"><\/span>What happens if you don&#8217;t kill Ulysses?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h1>\n<p>If you <strong>spare Ulysses&#8217; life<\/strong>, you will have the opportunity to <strong>recruit him as an ally<\/strong> and potentially gain access to <strong>unique dialogue options<\/strong> and <strong>storylines<\/strong>. By choosing not to kill Ulysses, you will also be able to <strong>explore the Divide<\/strong> with him and gain a deeper understanding of his <strong>backstory<\/strong> and <strong>motivations<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Understanding_Ulysses_Character\"><\/span>Understanding Ulysses&#8217; Character<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Ulysses is a complex and intriguing character in the Fallout: New Vegas universe, with a <strong>rich backstory<\/strong> and <strong>motivations<\/strong> that drive his actions throughout the game. To fully understand what happens if you don&#8217;t kill Ulysses, it&#8217;s essential to delve into his character and explore the various <strong>storylines<\/strong> and <strong>dialogue options<\/strong> that become available when you <strong>spare his life<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"FAQs\"><\/span>FAQs<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"1_What_happens_if_you_let_Ulysses_live\"><\/span>1. What happens if you let Ulysses live?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>If you let Ulysses live, you will have to pass a <strong>Speech check<\/strong> of 100 (90 if the Courier has a high reputation with the NCR, Legion, or the Strip), which makes Ulysses <strong>join the Courier<\/strong> against the incoming marked men.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"2_What_happens_to_Ulysses_after_Lonesome_Road\"><\/span>2. What happens to Ulysses after Lonesome Road?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>If Ulysses lives, after the quest The End or The Apocalypse, he can be found near the pass to canyon wreckage, where he will <strong>help the Courier make campfire recipes<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"3_Why_does_Ulysses_want_to_kill_the_Courier\"><\/span>3. Why does Ulysses want to kill the Courier?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Ulysses was the sole known un-mutated survivor and he believed the Divide was where a new nation greater than both the NCR and Legion could have been born, so he <strong>blamed the Courier<\/strong> for the catastrophe.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"4_What_does_Ulysses_want_in_Fallout\"><\/span>4. What does Ulysses want in Fallout?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Ulysses is a <strong>sophisticated and educated villain<\/strong> who wants to <strong>change history<\/strong> by casting aside the old symbols of the Old World.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"5_Can_you_let_Ulysses_live\"><\/span>5. Can you let Ulysses live?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>You can <strong>kill Ulysses or talk him down<\/strong> if you want, and it doesn&#8217;t affect anything except you can&#8217;t get <strong>second copies of his equipment<\/strong> if you don&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"6_Why_does_Ulysses_want_to_go_on_adventures_again\"><\/span>6. Why does Ulysses want to go on adventures again?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Ulysses decides that he cannot rest and wants to <strong>travel beyond<\/strong>, enjoying his life in an <strong>adventurous way<\/strong> even in old age.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"7_Should_you_kill_Ulysses_in_Fallout_New_Vegas\"><\/span>7. Should you kill Ulysses in Fallout New Vegas?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>You can <strong>kill Ulysses or talk him down<\/strong> if you want, and it doesn&#8217;t affect anything except you can&#8217;t get <strong>second copies of his equipment<\/strong> if you don&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"8_Does_the_Courier_get_lobotomized\"><\/span>8. Does the Courier get lobotomized?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>The Courier becomes a <strong>unique lobotomite<\/strong> after being operated on by the Think Tank.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"9_Can_I_spare_Ulysses\"><\/span>9. Can I spare Ulysses?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>You can <strong>kill Ulysses or talk him down<\/strong> if you want, and it doesn&#8217;t affect anything except you can&#8217;t get <strong>second copies of his equipment<\/strong> if you don&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"10_Does_Ulysses_like_the_Legion\"><\/span>10. Does Ulysses like the Legion?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Ulysses <strong>likes the Legion more<\/strong> than the NCR, but doesn&#8217;t believe in them anymore, openly saying that both factions will <strong>fall<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"11_What_did_Courier_6_do_to_Ulysses\"><\/span>11. What did Courier 6 do to Ulysses?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Ulysses <strong>blames Courier 6<\/strong> for unintentionally causing the complete destruction of his home, as the delivery of the <strong>detonator package<\/strong> led to the catastrophe.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"12_What_happens_if_you_nuke_the_Legion\"><\/span>12. What happens if you nuke the Legion?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>If the player targets the Legion, the <strong>missiles will destroy<\/strong> the East, the Legion&#8217;s Dry Wells camp, and the Twisted Hairs region, which was Ulysses&#8217;s old home, resulting in the NCR gaining a <strong>stronghold<\/strong> and defeating the weakened Legion.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"13_Can_you_go_back_to_the_Divide_after_you_finish_Lonesome_Road\"><\/span>13. Can you go back to the Divide after you finish Lonesome Road?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>You can <strong>return to the Divide<\/strong> after completing Lonesome Road, as well as Honest Hearts and Old World Blues, and explore the areas again.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"14_Can_you_avoid_fighting_Ulysses\"><\/span>14. Can you avoid fighting Ulysses?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>You can <strong>avoid killing Ulysses<\/strong> by talking to him about justifying your choice in factions, using a <strong>speech option<\/strong> prefaced with the chosen faction.<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"15_What_is_the_main_point_of_Ulysses\"><\/span>15. What is the main point of Ulysses?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Ulysses is a complex character with a <strong>rich backstory<\/strong> and <strong>motivations<\/strong>, and the main point of his character is to explore the <strong>consequences of the player&#8217;s actions<\/strong> and the <strong>morality of their choices<\/strong> in the Fallout: New Vegas universe.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What happens if you don&#8217;t kill Ulysses? If you spare Ulysses&#8217; life, you will have the opportunity to recruit him as an ally and potentially gain access to unique dialogue options and storylines. 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