Do +1 and counters remove each other?

+1/+1 and -1/-1 Counters: A Definitive Guide to Cancellation in Magic: The Gathering

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Yes, +1/+1 counters and -1/-1 counters on a permanent do remove each other in Magic: The Gathering. This happens automatically as a state-based action – the game checks for these situations constantly and cleans them up, ensuring the game state remains consistent. It’s like a little housekeeping process that keeps your creatures from becoming walking contradictions!

The Dance of Plus and Minus: Understanding Counter Cancellation

The core concept is simple: for every +1/+1 counter on a creature or other permanent, a corresponding -1/-1 counter will neutralize it. This process continues until only one type of counter remains or both types are completely eliminated.

How Cancellation Works Step-by-Step

  1. Simultaneous Existence: A creature (or other permanent capable of having counters) finds itself with both +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters on it. This can happen through various card effects – buffs, debuffs, triggered abilities, and so on.
  2. State-Based Actions to the Rescue: As a state-based action, before any player receives priority (the ability to cast spells or activate abilities), the game engine checks for pairs of +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters.
  3. Pairing Off: For each pair found, one +1/+1 counter and one -1/-1 counter are removed. This removal is simultaneous.
  4. The Result: This process repeats until either all +1/+1 counters are gone, all -1/-1 counters are gone, or there are no counters of either type remaining. The permanent’s power and toughness are then adjusted accordingly.

A Practical Example

Imagine a 2/2 Goblin Warrior with two +1/+1 counters and one -1/-1 counter. Here’s how the cancellation plays out:

  • Initial State: 2/2 Goblin with two +1/+1 counters and one -1/-1 counter.
  • Cancellation: One +1/+1 counter and the -1/-1 counter are removed, leaving one +1/+1 counter.
  • Final State: 3/3 Goblin with one +1/+1 counter.

Important Considerations and Nuances

While the basic rule is straightforward, a few key points are worth keeping in mind:

  • Timing: The cancellation happens before players receive priority. This means you can’t respond to the cancellation with spells or abilities.
  • Lethal Damage and Persist/Undying: If applying -1/-1 counters to a creature causes its toughness to drop to 0 or less, the creature dies before the +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters have a chance to cancel out. This is crucial when dealing with creatures that have the Persist or Undying abilities. These abilities trigger when a creature dies without -1/-1 or +1/+1 counters, respectively, potentially bringing the creature back to the battlefield.
  • Other Types of Counters: This cancellation rule applies only to +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters. Other types of counters, such as charge counters, loyalty counters, or poison counters, are unaffected by this rule and do not interact with +1/+1 or -1/-1 counters.
  • Lands and Other Non-Creatures: While most commonly seen on creatures, +1/+1 counters can also exist on other permanent types, like Lands, artifacts or enchantments, if a card effect allows it. The cancellation rule still applies if a permanent of any type has both +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters on it.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

1. Do +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters cancel each other out immediately?

Yes, the cancellation is immediate and automatic as a state-based action, occurring before players receive priority.

2. What happens if a creature has more -1/-1 counters than +1/+1 counters?

The +1/+1 counters will be removed, leaving the remaining -1/-1 counters. The creature’s power and toughness will then be reduced accordingly.

3. Can I respond to the cancellation of +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters?

No, the cancellation happens as a state-based action, which occurs before players get a chance to respond with spells or abilities.

4. If a creature dies due to -1/-1 counters, do the +1/+1 counters still cancel out?

No. A creature dies as a state-based action if its toughness is 0 or less. Since state-based actions are checked before players receive priority, the creature dies before the cancellation can occur.

5. What happens if a creature with Undying gets -1/-1 counters?

If a creature with Undying dies and has no +1/+1 counters on it, it returns to the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter. If it has +1/+1 counters when it dies, they will cancel out with the -1/-1 counters before the Undying ability triggers.

6. Do other types of counters cancel out?

No, only +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters cancel each other out. Other types of counters, such as charge counters or loyalty counters, do not interact in this way.

7. Can lands have +1/+1 counters?

Yes, lands (and any other permanent) can have +1/+1 counters if a card effect puts them there.

8. Are +1/+1 counters considered modifications?

Yes, +1/+1 counters are considered modifications to a permanent’s characteristics.

9. Does the order in which counters are placed matter for cancellation?

No, the order doesn’t matter. As long as both +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters are present, they will cancel out as a state-based action.

10. What is a state-based action?

State-based actions are game actions that the game automatically performs whenever certain conditions are met. The cancellation of +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters is one example.

11. Does a “double strike counter” exist in Magic?

While there are ways to give creatures double strike using counters, there isn’t a specific “double strike counter” card in Magic. The double strike is usually granted via an Aura, Equipment, or an ability that gives a creature double strike until end of turn.

12. Do +1/+1 counters stay on a permanent if it transforms (e.g., a Transformer card)?

Yes, counters generally stay on a permanent when it transforms, as it’s still the same game object.

13. Can I counter a spell that places counters on a creature?

Yes, you can counter a spell that puts counters on a creature using a card like Counterspell. This prevents the spell from resolving, and the counters will not be placed.

14. Do counters phase out?

Yes, counters remain on a permanent even while it’s phased out.

15. Can I put +1/+1 counters on tokens?

Yes, you can put +1/+1 counters on tokens. The counters function the same way as they would on any other creature.

Conclusion: Mastering the Counter Conundrum

Understanding how +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters interact is essential for navigating complex board states and making informed decisions in Magic: The Gathering. This simple yet crucial rule can significantly impact your gameplay, allowing you to maximize your creatures’ potential and outmaneuver your opponents. By mastering these interactions, you’ll gain a deeper understanding of the game and improve your overall strategic thinking. For more resources on gaming and learning, be sure to check out the Games Learning Society website at https://www.gameslearningsociety.org/.

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