How do you get neutral with The Sons of Hodir?

How to Gain Neutral Standing with The Sons of Hodir in Wrath of the Lich King Classic

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Gaining neutral status with The Sons of Hodir is a crucial first step for any player in World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King Classic seeking access to powerful shoulder enchants. This faction, comprised of frost giants, offers significant benefits to those who earn their favor. The path to neutrality, while seemingly straightforward, involves a series of questlines and a few specific prerequisites. The process begins with a journey to Storm Peaks and completing specific quests that unlock access to further reputation gains. In essence, you’ll need to complete an introductory questline that ends with a specific quest involving Thorim and then kill some Revenants. Completing those quests will establish you as neutral with The Sons of Hodir, thus granting access to their benefits and allowing for further reputation grinding. Let’s explore the steps in detail.

The Journey to Neutrality

Initial Requirements

Before embarking on this quest, you need to meet a few prerequisites:

  • Level 77 or Higher: You must be at least level 77 to begin the questline.
  • Transportation to Storm Peaks: You will need a way to reach Storm Peaks. This can be done by:
    • Acquiring a loaned mount from “Honest” Max at K3 in Storm Peaks, or;
    • Having Cold Weather Flying and a flying mount.

Starting the Questline

  1. They Took Our Men!: The questline starts with “They Took Our Men!” from Gretchen Fizzlespark in K3. This quest serves as your entry point into the Sons of Hodir narrative.
  2. Following the Chain: This initial quest will send you to Brunnhildar Village and the Forlorn Mines, where you will complete a series of about 16 quests. These quests will involve assisting the denizens of the area and progressing through the story.
  3. Making a Harness and Astrid’s Questline: After about 16 quests in the series you will have the last quest being Making a Harness. After turning in the last quest of this quest chain, you will begin Astrid’s Questchain with the quest The Last of Her Kind. A few quests later you will be required to talk to Thorim.

Reaching Neutral Status

Once the introductory questline is complete and you’ve spoken with Thorim, you will need to finish 2 quests in order to gain neutral status with the Sons of Hodir:
* Sibling Rivalry: Listen to Thorim’s story.
* The Refiner’s Fire: Kill 10 Seething Revenants in the area for Furious Sparks.
Turn in both quests back to Thorim.

After completing these tasks, you will be Neutral with The Sons of Hodir. This unlocks the ability to begin earning reputation, purchase their tabard, and turn in Relics of Ulduar for reputation.

The “Mending Fences” and “Slag Covered Metal” Note

You may see reference to the quest Mending Fences and Slag Covered Metal. While completing the quest Mending Fences, you will find that you will get Slag Covered Metal. The quest with the Slag Covered Metal is called The Refiner’s Fire which you will need to complete to gain neutral standing, this quest does not actually establish neutral status; it is a quest that players use to grind for rep. The key to gaining neutral status is completing all the quests in the initial quest chain, then doing the quests listed above, Sibling Rivalry and The Refiner’s Fire.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

1. Why is becoming Neutral with Sons of Hodir important?

The Sons of Hodir faction is vital because they are the primary source of shoulder enchants in Wrath of the Lich King. These powerful enchantments are essential for optimizing character performance, and you need to achieve at least Honored reputation to acquire the first tier of these enchants. The higher the reputation rank the better enchants you unlock.

2. Where do I find Lillehoff, the Sons of Hodir quartermaster?

Lillehoff, the frost giant quartermaster for The Sons of Hodir, can be found in Dun Niffelem located in the Storm Peaks at coordinates /way 66.0 61.4.

3. What can I purchase from Lillehoff?

Lillehoff sells a variety of items, including the Tabard of the Sons of Hodir, shoulder enchants, and other goods for players of appropriate reputation and payment.

4. What is the purpose of the Tabard of the Sons of Hodir?

The Tabard of the Sons of Hodir is used to gain reputation with the faction while running specific dungeons. If you wish to farm reputation with The Sons of Hodir, putting on the tabard will allow you to farm rep quickly in Wrath Dungeons.

5. How many Relics of Ulduar are needed to reach Exalted with The Sons of Hodir?

You will need approximately 1800 Relics of Ulduar to go from Neutral to Exalted with The Sons of Hodir if you do not want to do any daily quests.

6. What are Relics of Ulduar, and where do they drop?

Relics of Ulduar are items that can be turned in to Lillehoff for Sons of Hodir reputation. They have a high drop rate from most level 80 mobs in Storm Peaks, particularly Seething Revenants and Brittle Revenants, especially in the Fjorn’s Anvil area due to the high respawn rate.

7. How can I grind Relics of Ulduar efficiently?

The Fjorn’s Anvil area is a prime location for grinding Relics due to the high respawn rate of level 80 Revenants. The mobs also tend not to move, making it easier to farm them.

8. Is there any other way to gain reputation with the Sons of Hodir besides Relics?

Yes. After achieving Neutral status you unlock access to daily quests that reward rep. Completing these daily quests is another, generally more economical way, to gain rep with The Sons of Hodir.

9. What is the drop rate for Relics of Ulduar?

The vast majority of mobs that drop Relics of Ulduar have at least a 50% chance to drop it, though this does not mean each mob will drop a relic.

10. What is Slag Covered Metal, and where do I obtain it?

Slag Covered Metal drops from Stormforged Iron Giants in the Storm Peaks. It is used to complete the quest The Refiner’s Fire which is used for gaining rep with Sons of Hodir after establishing neutral standing with them.

11. What quests do I need to do to establish neutrality?

To establish neutral standing, you need to:
* Complete the initial quest chain starting with They Took Our Men! at K3.
* Complete the follow up quests Sibling Rivalry and The Refiner’s Fire after talking to Thorim.
Completing these quests will establish neutral status with The Sons of Hodir.

12. What are the different tiers of shoulder enchants available?

The Sons of Hodir offers two tiers of shoulder enchants. The first tier is available at Honored reputation, and the second tier is available at Exalted reputation.

13. Where do I exchange Relics of Ulduar for reputation?

Relics of Ulduar can be exchanged with Lillehoff in Dun Niffelem at coordinates 66.61 for 250 reputation points each once you are Neutral with the faction.

14. Can I get a mount from Ulduar?

Yes, the mount Mimiron’s Head does drop from Yogg-Saron in Ulduar, but it only drops when a very specific condition is met before engaging the boss which means you have to complete the raid on a hard mode for the mount to drop.

15. Do Runed Orbs drop from 10-man Ulduar?

Runed Orbs only drop in Heroic (25-man) Ulduar, not the 10-man version. They also only drop on certain difficulties which makes them hard to obtain.

By following these steps and understanding these key points, you’ll be well on your way to achieving Neutral status and unlocking the full potential of the Sons of Hodir faction. This is a crucial step in optimizing your character for the challenges of Wrath of the Lich King Classic.

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